This is not the matter of fair and fine, this is the matter of shame and Indian culture, and what is the need to wear that kind of dresses in college. If you are really talking about the comfort ability in college then there must be sofas or beds and AC which can make much cool and comfortable to the students so that they can easily understand the subject and learn more and more while concentrating on exposing. I know there are 99 things to oppose, please don’t make this one as 100. I hope still college or school is a respectable place and be let them as it is. I know and understand the concept of my friend Sheetal Bhandari, as she is saying if this is mostly everywhere in India then why not in colleges, Now I oppose and say, from where you will find this kind of culture be the part of there and that but don’t make or spoil the culture of college which will affect the co student and now college then school. So this is my humble request to all the college girls, don’t come to the college for comfort ability or relaxation, cause it effects to our society and culture. I shocked when I have seen that there are a more votes for modern dressing at campus in toostep and especially senior citizens are rating high, why I don’t know but my concern is that every buddy knows that what the modern dressing is. In our regular life most of the things we are compromising, now for the sake of culture if we compromise this thing also then I think lot of the changes will be there in our social life.
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Mohammed Abdul Bari, Network Support Engineer@ETISALAT, Dubai
| 02 Aug 2010 04:19 PM +0000
Yes, may be its good for the one who wear them but not for others, it drags one concentration/attention from studies. they should wear them in some other places but not to schools or colleges. its tempts others and lead to many problems.
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Manjunath A.V, Global Component Engineer, at Unknown Technology
| 02 Aug 2010 12:00 PM +0000
Colleges are not places for fashion. First of all, let me express it clearly that the desire to dress too fashionably is itself the sign of low self esteem, which needs proper counseling. Young students these days are drawn towards the fictitious world of glamor at a young age and they want to go any length to look fashionable and 'cool'. This reflects that they do not believe in the inherent value of character so much as in external pomp and show. This is a sorry state of affairs for India. Students should be counseled and should be asked to focus on education and character building.
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Shyam S, Project Leader/Managing Consultant, A leading EDA firm
| 02 Aug 2010 10:59 AM +0000
i say to sheetal bhandari and others like her that college is not a ground of fashion where they have to show fashion.u all have to right to live like guys but no guy come in college such a dress for which body exposes.in college campus all students seems same so its not good to wear modern fashion wears in campuss
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Dr.Narendra Bahadur Singh, Sr REPORTER, TRIGUT HINDI DANIK NEWS PAPER
| 26 Jun 2010 12:47 PM +0000
Hi All, i think this topic ll not terminate. From opposition side i just want to conclude that nobody is having any objection towards modernization, globalization, freedom of girls in India. According me i dont think that India is any more male dominated (as far as urban and educated communities are concern). I am sure and girls will agree with me that 21st century girls are not less than boys on any aspects. If it is true then there is no place for male domination. As India is a democratic country everyone (man, women) has rights to speak on any topic, nobody has stopped girls to debate on topics like "Underwear Ads showing Men near to naked should be banned". If they feel its wrong then ll surely debate on this. India is the only country where the most freedom can be experienced in which ever way u want to.
There are many things (senses) which differs in Theoretically, practically and biologically. Nobody can control their senses. Can any one can control breathing, thinking, blinking eyes, feeling of pain. So, theoretically it is very easy to say, but practically its very tough to do.
In my view male domination is not the reason for girls to not debating on "Underwear Ads showing Men near to naked should be banned".
Most of our issues can be solved if we think practically what is possible and what is not.
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Chandra shekhar, Content Writer, Leading Clinical Research Company
| 25 Jun 2010 12:11 PM +0000
I don't have words to explain here but i hate current ladies and girl's wearings what they wear if the matter of comfort then is there any problem if they wear full dresses Day by day this comfort creating problem of girl's security it is up to you what you think right and wrong but it is totally wrong for safety of all girls and woman's. Thanks for invitation
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Manmath Patil, MBA/PGDM student & marketing executive
| 24 Jun 2010 08:45 AM +0000
yes there should be no problem...but if the student will waste there time to maintain the style.....then what will happen to there study & result......i think.....we all know.....ok it can be a good carrier...for them..but then if u want to make carrier so ....u have to study well...if u cant wear good, so how can u..be a good person....bcz....we all respect indian culture......so there is a lot of good dressess...to wear & feel comfortalbe.....like...gense -shirts,trousers,shirts,salwar -sout,paint shirts,,,,etc.....& at last.....if your parents feel good...so u r the free in this world.....no budy can stop u.....
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prabhats , m.t. (R&D), klr hyderabad
| 23 Jun 2010 05:01 PM +0000
But what will happen to children looking at them . That is how in the name of freedom we spoil our own society/family values .some discipline needs to be followed. it is similar to condemning moral policing . For their own interest these so called modern females spoil the children and family values. If no restrictions , total chaos !!!!!!! And that is what happening in India . Imagine about the future .
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Rakesh dadhich, CEO/MD/Director, INDGLOBAL CONSULTANCY SOLUTIONS
| 23 Jun 2010 03:45 PM +0000
In the name of freedom and modernity if we start copying western culture , it is merely foolishness on our part . Indians have very rich heritage which includes descent dresses for females which provides them a feminine look and grace . If their aim is to become a mere sex bomb by exposing more and more skin , it is foolishness on our part to support their so called freedom . in the name of freedom very soon we will invite freedom of sex ( Prostitution ) and destruction of social life (divorces, no marriage ).
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Rakesh dadhich, CEO/MD/Director, INDGLOBAL CONSULTANCY SOLUTIONS
| 23 Jun 2010 03:19 PM +0000
By exposing the skin more they invite more attention physically which will lead to more sex in colleges. Why we simply want to promote which if is not controlled will lead more and more sexual invitation and this free sexual orientation will lead to a unstable social life ie. more divoreces, family breakdown, stress ........
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Rakesh dadhich, CEO/MD/Director, INDGLOBAL CONSULTANCY SOLUTIONS
| 23 Jun 2010 02:58 PM +0000
Dear Mr. Shrikant Manohar Danke, before writing anything I just want to share that opinion differs from persons to persons and should not be taken personally. I hope u ll take it as healthy conversation (No hard feelings).
Please read and my previous posts where I repeatedly wrote that I have no objection and I am not against modernization, globalization and freedom of girls in India. They do have rights to wear whatever they feel comfortable in. My major concern over here is their safety. For me, safety is the first priory and I hope u and everyone ll agree with me.
Answer to your points in to the points.
1)I didnt say that in India you are not free to wear what you want whether it is fashion /need/style. 2)I didnt say that dress code is the main and the only reason for increased rape cases, I said it (could) become a reason for such kind of activity. 3)I want to see India as a best and safest place in the world for women... 4)I and everyone here are mature enough to knows what is rape. 5)I can except the change but I cant except women becoming victims of such things... Again, I m not opposing and objecting for modern dress. 6)I dont have to say, everyone know what to wear and what not to wear... And I am not objecting for modern dress then y should I talk about objection... 7)I Know about all these and I also agree with your line.... “In today's fast changing life every body wears clothes for fashion quotient/style statement & not as a need. If any girl feels comfortable in what she wears then it is secondary for it's size/type/form.” 8)My vision are already broadened and I look human beings as human beings only. Who said they are not free / independent like us to do things of their choice.
I m not able to understand that when I wrote clearly and repeatedly that I am not against modern dress and modernization, my only concern here is the safety of girls... Do u think safety should not be given preference in this topic... and please India is a democratic country, everyone here has rights to write and express their opinion... We should agree that opinion differs from persons to persons and should not be taken personally and should believe in healthy conversation.
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Chandra shekhar, Content Writer, Leading Clinical Research Company
| 23 Jun 2010 11:53 AM +0000
It does looks fair if their parent allowing their child to wear the exposeable dress in any type of Institutional organisation. First of all that is to be the standing oders for the pupils by the head of the Institution, & defaulters to be taken on task. See if everybody is in same parameter than it doesnot going to be much harmful otherwise it will spoil whole enviroment. Afterall they should obey the Institutional rules & regulations.
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Mr Khirod Gogoi, Project Lead, Resigned from Global Innovosource Ltd. last year (Sep/2008)
| 23 Jun 2010 11:44 AM +0000
Dear Mr. Vipin Bhasin, Thanks for your concordance and attention towards my opinion. As Rome was not built in a day nor with a single person, similarly my suggestion alone cant bring revolution in our Indian security system and on Indian roads. Yes, we failed to control crime and other such activity, if No then why blasts on local trains, restaurants, public places, and hotels etc... For clarity, please go through my previous post where I wrote “I dont think only short dresses can attract men, even a traditional saree can have a similar impact, i am sure that men's do agree with this” which means its not only modern fashion girls even traditional girl with saree can also be a victim. For some data you can “Click Here” I hope you are aware that Delhi which is a our capital has recorded maximum number of rape cases, where victim dress also played a major role. As medicines can cure disease but they do have side effects, similarly cloths do have some impact on human behavior therefore we have to co-relate..... Please note I am not against modernization, globalization and freedom of girls in India. They do have rights to wear whatever they feel comfortable in. My major concern over here is their safety. For me, safety is the first priory.
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Chandra shekhar, Content Writer, Leading Clinical Research Company
| 22 Jun 2010 03:21 PM +0000
I also do appose modern dresses in colleges because a wrong massage gone into male's mind regarding females at that stage og age. To see the female wearing such dresses, many more type of thoughts, feelings, movements produces our mind.Those are negative mostly.
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| 22 Jun 2010 12:46 PM +0000
The world is changing dynamically and the modern fashion wear is only the greed of thr hour, not need of the hour. Campuss is not a fashion temple, its a place of learning. Do you go to temples wearing modern fashion wears, then why you think campuss is less than that of such a place?
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Anurag Sharma, Deputy Manager (Sales & Distribution), TATA DOCOMO
| 22 Jun 2010 11:58 AM +0000
Hi Akshayata, i do agree that girls do have freedom in India to wear any kind of dress they like. Everything is fine till nothing goes wrong, if something goes wrong then everything becomes wrong. I dont think only short dresses can attract men, even a traditional saree can have a similar impact, i am sure that men's do agree with this.
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Chandra shekhar, Content Writer, Leading Clinical Research Company
| 22 Jun 2010 09:12 AM +0000
college is a place to study, gain knowledge.college is the palce for teens. teens are the maturing human beings with powerfull sexual desires and it is natural,biologically speaking.The dress wore should not induce or attract any kind of sexual desires in young men.also when we see from the point of girls safety, descent dressed girls are less likely to haressed sexxually. so i feel that college should not be a fashion club.
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Shridhar suresh paranjape, B.Sc student, Mangalore university
| 21 Jun 2010 08:12 AM +0000
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Hide and seek game will come to end.this culture make our guys to concentrate on studies otherthan searching something.They will feel that its over.after the years later,modern dress will be our culture dress, who knows.It may happen.
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saravanan arumugam, Project Manager, NEC
| 02 Aug 2010 03:50 PM +0000
The rule of nature is "If you have it, falunt it - while you can" Hpwever, there are other social and community rules applicable in whatever one do: In my vernacular it isays: "Enne nokku, ninne nokku, neram nokku, nila nokku" I means: Look at self, look at others, llok at the time / sourroundings, position and situation" In short there is a place, occassion, situation and time for everything, adhered to these, there will be harmony. "
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Abraham Paul, Owner, FCOMNET - Future Groups
| 04 Jul 2010 08:42 AM +0000
Let me begin by saying I do NOT support this argument...exactly. But I do NOT strongly oppose the other either. In my opinion, the type or style of clothes worn by women today...or even men for that matter...is but symptomatic of much larger and broader issues at play in Indian society. Traditional Indian culture is in a state flux...and actually has been for several hundred years, ever since it first allowed Western Europeans to invade its shores...and yet even more recently with it being a principal recipient of Western industrial outsourcing and a major player in the game of international globalization. Women, in general, and "modern" women, in particular, are not to blame for this phenomenon as it relates to dress style and fashion. They are simply part of this cultural flux and certainly should not be victimized...least of all by traditional-minded men...because they are caught up in the same phenomenon. This is going to be a difficult process for India, mainly because its so-called "culture" is so diverse. There are already many "correct" and "acceptable" ways to dress, cook, worship, live, work, behave and act in India. These different "ways" may not always like or necessarily approve of some of the other "ways", but over time they have grown accustomed to and more tolerant of one another. Regardless, an on-going national debate of this phenomenon is healthy...and should be encouraged...certainly a discussion that is civil, mutually respectful and inherently tolerant, so as to avoid the hostility and even violence that have taken over this same debate in the Middle East. India is at a watershed moment and needs to decide whether it is going to approach the matter in a conflictive or reasonable manner.
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James Hindman, Principal, The Hindquarters Group, Inc.
| 26 Jun 2010 05:58 PM +0000
Jyoti this is happening since the cultur is changing and we are following western culture. I think this will remain for some time and then the regular dress code will come back.
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Rathin Deb, Resident Manager, Tower Infotech Ltd.
| 26 Jun 2010 07:21 AM +0000
They can wear what they like and in which they are most comfortable but they must avoid so much exposer which can cause HANGAMA and brings them a bad Image. Indian males are of such a mentality that they will criticise the things by lips which they likes most by heart.Females knows their good-better-best.
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Krishna Bhardwaj, Lyrics Writer, Freelancer
| 25 Jun 2010 12:47 PM +0000
I reckon that college days are the best days where in you can be what you are and express in your own way. Wearing clothes which you like also a part of expressing yourself, however I oppose too much revealing clothes in the meantime
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Amit Kulkarni, Senior Sales Manager, TooStep
| 25 Jun 2010 12:17 PM +0000
The debate itself reinforces the fact that we live in a male dominated society. Do we ever debate a statement "Underwear Ads showing Men near to naked should be banned". The statement "exposing female body too much" itself is degrading. What has someone to do with other's tastes, styles and wardrobe. We cannot control fashion or a person's choice But we can definitely control our Senses which can take care of such issues. If we can look at individuals (even a person wearing vulgare dress) as a fellow human beings like colleague, friend, student etc and not as a Bodily thing, it will be wonderful. PS: A women in Burkha is afterall a female body and equally vulnarable to crimes. Controlling our Outlook is more effective than changing the whole world.
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romita ghosh, Product & Brand Manager
| 25 Jun 2010 10:34 AM +0000
i am not against of it nor even favour of it,girls and boys should wear watever they wanna wear,come on guys and girls its modern society ,its 21st century,now india has got freedom but not yet got freedom frm rules ........and boundry...........but yes people should also know their limit for example girls,should wear watever they want to wear ,but their is a place........the dress should looks nice ,pretty ..........nt the one which looks cheap...
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reena singh, manufacturer of Pre engineered building and cold rolled formed section, Frontline roll forms
| 25 Jun 2010 10:26 AM +0000
if one person can carry the modern fashion...then where is the problem to wear it? just maintain up to certain point in the campus..thats all..otherwise what is the problem...
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sudipta saha, Consultant, SC analytics pvt ltd.
| 25 Jun 2010 10:23 AM +0000
Hi, Great debate, enjoying........... I don`t want to support this side but the debate has been removed from college campus to as a whole subject. I 100% agree with Akshyata, Sheetal and morely convinced with Vipin. Every body has the right to wear less/more or not to wear if felt conforted. If we can watch adultaery in the family through television why not be prepared to watch live and enjoy. The person who wear must felt confortable at every stages of public gathering and also should not comment on Indian publics or males who stares. Be ready to enjoy guy`s. One thing - I must personally feel, while on college campus/office or anywhere - dress codes must be maintained. If not maintained then the Guy`s should stop wearing suits and must reach in half pants and sleeve less shirts for the sake of comforts. One thing more - Half pants will saves the cost too.
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Jyoti Chetani, Freelancer, Equity Research/Analytics
| 25 Jun 2010 09:50 AM +0000
Yes Sheetal You are right,I don't understand ,if someone likes something and got it then its ok,But the same thing is hurting that person in other's case
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vikash kumar, Partner, gsv services
| 24 Jun 2010 01:18 PM +0000
There in nothing wrong in wearing short dresses and exposing body in colleges/anywhere because if u have anything extraordinary you should expose it as with exposing you can further improve and if you will not expose, it will be considered zero. Secondly we should wear the dress that make us feelcomfortable. But after all, before exposing your body by wearing short dresses, you should keep in mind that everything has a limit.
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Harminder Singh, Quality Assurance Officer, Jagatjit Industries Limited
| 23 Jun 2010 05:45 PM +0000
Why not???? All arguments i have see so far in opposition have been stating the weakness of the male kind to keep it in control, i mean facts are we do live in a male dominated society, but should the woman really pay for the lack of control on the mans part. It's ok to have a dress code in educational institutes, but not a gender biased dress code. Simple question is if it were a woman dominated society would the man be happy covering up their biceps, or not wearing bermudas or jeans with holes, or any jewelery chains watches etc. cause they distract women.
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Aniruddha Gargya, Tech Architect, InSync Information System (P) Ltd.
| 23 Jun 2010 02:47 PM +0000
Dear Chandrshekhar, I am on argue with you on this topic but it does not mean that I am in their side. Actually I have a neutral stand on this. Please let me explain it in brief. 1)In India you are free to wear what you want whether it is fashion /need/style whatever you say. 2)About rape cases who said you that dress code is the reason for increased rape cases. 3)It's all lies in your eyes that what you see or what you want to see ? 4)As per proper defination rape is physical activity in which 2 persons are involved, one is by will & other ......................................?But who said that rape is physical activity? Just stop at any corner of any road & in any city throughout India/world /everywhere - there are no. of girls/ females who have to experience an unseen rape which is done by no. of opposite sex that is man/men by their eyes. These ................. are looking to any female like their own property. So don't be a moral police! If you don't like it please change your road or don't come in front of these girls. Ok. 5) Accept the change , it will be more useful for us. & about wearing such types of dress is purely an individual's choice. How can we oppose them? It is their choice about dress code, so please leave it to them. & who give us authority to take objection on such type of dress . 6) You can do one thing that tell your dear ones & near ones about your objection on such types of dress code then I am sure that you would get the answer. 7)In today's fast changing life every body wears clothes for fashion quotient/style statement & not as a need.If any girl feels comfortable in what she wears then it is secondary for it's size/type/form ......................... 8)Please broaden your vision. Don't look opposite sex as commodity/thing. They are also free /independant like us to do things of their choice. So let us not discuss such type of personal interest/choice/descision on social site like TOOstep.& please don't mind about my view as I think it in this way.
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SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Consultant, Project Management Consultancy Firm
| 23 Jun 2010 10:36 AM +0000
Thanks for the referral Sheetal I don’t think that dressing up in any way is a problem. Even in countries like Afganistan where a female is covered from head to toe, and her eye is the only visible part, crime against female is commited in broad daylight. The main thing is how a female carries herself, in any dress, be it modern or tradidtional.
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Dr Ali Ahmad, Medical Superintendent/Director, Surbhi Hospital
| 22 Jun 2010 06:05 PM +0000
Mr. Chandra Shekhar, If we agree with your points then why you are not suggesting to implement the appropriate security system across India or Indian roads. Indians are living and running on roads. You are telling that we are failed to control the crime so that we are not free to move on the roads. Do you have any data which prove that only modern fashion wearing girls are always victims others are not. We can't connect clothes with crime........... One side we are talking about Indian culture and other side we are talking that we are not safe... both are conflicting....
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Vipin Bhasin, Private Equity/Hedge Fund/VC-Manager, Indian Investment Co.
| 22 Jun 2010 01:11 PM +0000
Here is no matter to discussion because if guys have rights to choose about their clothes, shoes etc etc.. then why not girls. It depends on girls decision that what they want to wear. Even some girls don't like modern fashion wears then we can't say them to wear modern ones. And please don't comments on clothes change your own views... Sheetal explain it .. We can wear any cloth as per our comfort level...
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Vipin Bhasin, Private Equity/Hedge Fund/VC-Manager, Indian Investment Co.
| 22 Jun 2010 10:51 AM +0000
Hi Sridhar, Just because a girl wears "exposing" clothes a man should not control his own libido? Or forget his own decency?Do you have any statistic that says that girls in burkha are not sexually harrased? the ones wearing miniskirts are inviting trouble? perhaps they get raped more? What about sexual harrassment that is done irrespective of her clothes? Teenage is a time in life to understand your own seulaity. it also means letting others decide what is sexually exciting for them. WHt athey want to wear and what not. Yes college is no fashion ground or atleast shouldnt be exclusively a place for fashion. however, most girls are aware that they need to have basic decorum in public places. Just because men find it difficult to accept doesnt mean a girl cant experimnt
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Akshayata , Marketing Manager, Marketing
| 22 Jun 2010 08:37 AM +0000
Who defines what is "exposing"? and why should a woman not wear what she is comfortable in just because men around her will be "sexually attarcted"? Why dont we believe in the youth and let them decide their own choice in clothes? If one can vote at 18, one can also decide what to wear. And dont you think that a girl will sooner or later decide what is decent in her own eyes. She is her own person and will make her own decisions.
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Akshayata , Marketing Manager, Marketing
| 22 Jun 2010 08:31 AM +0000
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